SantaCheck.com is gaining ground. We already told you that a Santa Claus message board full of nothing but Hate, foul language and self confessed sex swingers was quiet because of our exposing of their language and actions. (Now third day, no new postings)
We can now report that Paul Vincent, "Santa Claus" from St. Petersburg FL and Manhattan NY, and a member of the International Order of Santas has changed his International Order of Santas Profile. He has removed his shocking, disgusting links to adult sites that feature him in the nude.
He has removed the links, but he has not removed his adult sites. Mr. Paul Vincent, who pretends to be a "Santa Claus" from Manhattan NY, and St. Petersburg FL, still maintains his connection and his sex lifestyle.
We would really like to know why those disgusting adult links were on his International Order of Santa Profile to begin with.
Monday, September 29, 2008
SantaTalk speechless
For the first time since we have been monitoring SantaTalkATT, it would appear that they are speechless.
Two Full days have gone by without any posts on the Board that exists to "Answer The Trolls" as they state on their front page. Although on several of their messages in that board, they say that ATT stands for "Attack The Trolls". It is also apparent in their postings that the "troll/s" is their favorite insult for a Santa/Santas that they compete with in their Santa Business. They have called him just about every name in the book. They set up this entire message board for the sole purpose of posting their hatred for an individual they think threatens their ability to make money as "santas". (see posting below that includes an image they made out of his photo. It is his picture on a dart board)
They have posted that we were going to be taken offline. They complained because we are exposing their own words. We take screen shots of their postings and place them in our website, so that they can be seen by the rest of the world not familiar with their message board.
They have called taking their words and posting them here "Hate Speech". We wonder why they didn't consider it hateful when they posted those same words on their own message board.
In a recent post by Ric Erwin, a Santa Claus in Riverside CA, he deviated from his norm, and used words like "crap" "stuff" and "junk" rather than so-called adult language, which he routinely filled his posts with in the past.
We are happy to see that SantaCheck.com has accomplished at least ONE thing. We have cleaned up their language that they use in public. We wonder how long it will last. We wonder how long it will be before they harass someone else in the privacy of their own home. We wonder how long it will be before they "cuss like a sailor" and then tell everyone to just deal with it, again.
Two Full days have gone by without any posts on the Board that exists to "Answer The Trolls" as they state on their front page. Although on several of their messages in that board, they say that ATT stands for "Attack The Trolls". It is also apparent in their postings that the "troll/s" is their favorite insult for a Santa/Santas that they compete with in their Santa Business. They have called him just about every name in the book. They set up this entire message board for the sole purpose of posting their hatred for an individual they think threatens their ability to make money as "santas". (see posting below that includes an image they made out of his photo. It is his picture on a dart board)
They have posted that we were going to be taken offline. They complained because we are exposing their own words. We take screen shots of their postings and place them in our website, so that they can be seen by the rest of the world not familiar with their message board.
They have called taking their words and posting them here "Hate Speech". We wonder why they didn't consider it hateful when they posted those same words on their own message board.
In a recent post by Ric Erwin, a Santa Claus in Riverside CA, he deviated from his norm, and used words like "crap" "stuff" and "junk" rather than so-called adult language, which he routinely filled his posts with in the past.
We are happy to see that SantaCheck.com has accomplished at least ONE thing. We have cleaned up their language that they use in public. We wonder how long it will last. We wonder how long it will be before they harass someone else in the privacy of their own home. We wonder how long it will be before they "cuss like a sailor" and then tell everyone to just deal with it, again.
Friday, September 26, 2008
We are still here
We are still here. We have been threatened with efforts to overload our server and knock it off line. We think they call that a "Denial of Service Attack". Believe it or not, this threat is from people who claim that they are Santa. They posted publicly that they want to organize some kind of overload on our server, and overwhelm it to cause us to go offline.
It is a good thing that they do not have the technical skills, because from what we have seen of those hateful people at SantaTalk, they would do it if they knew how.
We have seen them post threats of violence to other Santas that compete with them in the Santa world. We have seen them brag about calling a competing Santa's landlord and harass him at his apartment building. We have seen them post google map pictures of his place of residence. We have seen them insult his wife.
We have no doubt, if they could pull off something like take our server down, they would do it. But SantaCheck.com is still up.
Also, they have claimed that they were going to complain and have our site taken down by our server provider. As a matter of fact, two days ago, they said that "this time tomorrow" our site would be down. It has now been two days.
We wonder if anyone has tried to take their site down.
Has anyone read the hateful stuff they write? It is horrid. And these men want to spend time with YOUR children???? We wouldn't let them anywhere near ours.
By the way, we had access to their message board for a time. They removed our posts and our access, but while we were there, we found this in their photo section.
We already know, that they know how to photoshop images , Here is another example of their photoshop efforts. That person in the picture, that is the one they post about hating so much, the other Santa that they are competing against. This is the one, of which, Owen Davenport, a supposed "Santa Claus" in Terre Haute Indiana, said he wanted "dibs on cutting that nasty beard".
It is a good thing that they do not have the technical skills, because from what we have seen of those hateful people at SantaTalk, they would do it if they knew how.
We have seen them post threats of violence to other Santas that compete with them in the Santa world. We have seen them brag about calling a competing Santa's landlord and harass him at his apartment building. We have seen them post google map pictures of his place of residence. We have seen them insult his wife.
We have no doubt, if they could pull off something like take our server down, they would do it. But SantaCheck.com is still up.
Also, they have claimed that they were going to complain and have our site taken down by our server provider. As a matter of fact, two days ago, they said that "this time tomorrow" our site would be down. It has now been two days.
We wonder if anyone has tried to take their site down.
Has anyone read the hateful stuff they write? It is horrid. And these men want to spend time with YOUR children???? We wouldn't let them anywhere near ours.
By the way, we had access to their message board for a time. They removed our posts and our access, but while we were there, we found this in their photo section.
We already know, that they know how to photoshop images , Here is another example of their photoshop efforts. That person in the picture, that is the one they post about hating so much, the other Santa that they are competing against. This is the one, of which, Owen Davenport, a supposed "Santa Claus" in Terre Haute Indiana, said he wanted "dibs on cutting that nasty beard".
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SantaTalkATT/message/1285Talk about Hate! That entire message board, of those "santas" is full of nothing but hate.
From: "Owen Davenport" OJDSC@msn.com
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:25:11 -0400
X-Yahoo-Profile: santaowen47803
To: SantaTalkATT@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STATT] Nicky Poo's home page
I want dibs on cutting that nasty beard
Santa Owen
Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Wow! They really do not like us!
The people we are posting about, do NOT like us.
They do not like us posting copies of their posts.
They do not like us exposing them.
We wonder if they have ever heard of the Golden Rule
You remember? "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you"
They do not like us posting copies of their posts.
They do not like us exposing them.
We wonder if they have ever heard of the Golden Rule
You remember? "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you"
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
FAQs
We have already received some emails from some Santas asking us who we are, and why are we doing this.
We here at SantaCheck.com have not listed our individual names, or a physical address where we can be found.
There is a very good reason for that.
First: Why are we doing this?
We saw so much in the world today, that concerned us as parents. When we read about what the State of California called the "Bad Santa Law" we became even more concerned.
This made us realize that information needed to be provided in an easier to reach format. We decided to become a clearing house as it were of the information we found on the internet. We make no claims. We simply show what we have found. We strenuously try to ensure that the information we provide is information in the individuals own words. We do not proclaim anyone as anything. We let their words do that.
Who are We?
When we imagined the idea for this site, we at first were going to provide a complete contact information resource. However when we read of an account where someone contacted the "apartment complex manager" of a person they had a public disagreement with, this concerned our families, and us as well.
We decided to not provide that, in an effort to protect our families and children. We quickly removed any contact information from any files we had prepared for the then upcoming website. This is for the safety of our Children, of which we have already proclaimed, that is WHO we are concerned for.
We here at SantaCheck.com have not listed our individual names, or a physical address where we can be found.
There is a very good reason for that.
First: Why are we doing this?
We saw so much in the world today, that concerned us as parents. When we read about what the State of California called the "Bad Santa Law" we became even more concerned.
This made us realize that information needed to be provided in an easier to reach format. We decided to become a clearing house as it were of the information we found on the internet. We make no claims. We simply show what we have found. We strenuously try to ensure that the information we provide is information in the individuals own words. We do not proclaim anyone as anything. We let their words do that.
Who are We?
When we imagined the idea for this site, we at first were going to provide a complete contact information resource. However when we read of an account where someone contacted the "apartment complex manager" of a person they had a public disagreement with, this concerned our families, and us as well.
We decided to not provide that, in an effort to protect our families and children. We quickly removed any contact information from any files we had prepared for the then upcoming website. This is for the safety of our Children, of which we have already proclaimed, that is WHO we are concerned for.
SantaTalk
We have updated SantaCheck.com to include a message board called SantaTalk. We posted earlier examples of some very bad Santas from their message board. The more we read about them, from their own community message board. We decided to flag the entire message board.
Wednesday, September 17, 2008
SantaCheck.com blog
We have now joined the blogging world, blogosphere, or what ever they are calling it.
We already have a web presence at www.SantaCheck.com, but with this blog, we are hoping it will be easier to post notices about updates in our website. Not being very web minded, we are enjoying the tools that are available for the average internet user.
We will be incorporating the two web presences, our original site, and this blog, so that hopefully they will work seamlessly together.
We already have a web presence at www.SantaCheck.com, but with this blog, we are hoping it will be easier to post notices about updates in our website. Not being very web minded, we are enjoying the tools that are available for the average internet user.
We will be incorporating the two web presences, our original site, and this blog, so that hopefully they will work seamlessly together.
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