Wednesday, October 15, 2008

"Santa" indeed has a foul mouth

It's time for some screen shots to prove our posts


Ric Erwin, a "Santa Claus" in Laguna Niguel CA and who was the "santa" at the L.A. Fair this past September posted a post with the subject line "GOD DAMN YOUR IMMORTAL SOUL, NICK TROLLI!!! "
Here is the post as a screen shot.
Can you believe the mouth on this Santa?

Here is a conversation where they are making fun of a competitor in their business.


Charlie Thomas, a "santa claus" from Alabaster AL (AKA BamaSanta), said of his competitor,

"... I'd be willing to lend my foot to be strategically placed in the appropriate area for kicking"
To which Ron Olsen, a "santa claus" from Alameda CA, said,

"Dibs on cutting the suspenders!"

Finally, Owen Davenport, a "santa claus" from Terre Haute IN responded with this one;

"I want dibs on cutting that nasty beard"
Here is a post from a Mr. Glenn Heald, a "santa claus" from Macon GA,


Is he asking Jesus to kill someone?

Speaking of BamaSanta, his wife, Cindylu, AKA Cindy Thomas from Alabaster AL is no better than the foul mouthed "santas". Remember Mr. Earl Allen Keeney, who said that the correct way to handle a brother who strikes you on the cheek, you are to "kick him in the nuts"?

Check out this reply from Miss Cindylu.. and we are not referring to the cute little Cindylu Who from Dr. Seuss. This little old lady shows a real mean streak herself.


This little old lady will HOPEFULLY stay away from the Santa Set when you take your children in the Alabaster Alabama area. But.. who knows.. maybe she will be there. MAYBE she will be acting on the set, the way she acts on this message board. Do YOU want to take that chance?

While we are on the subject of BamaSanta. We were checking out their website while preparing this site, THIS was on their website;

and this was at the bottom of the page;

Unfortunately, they have recently reworked their site, and you cannot see "their" nice list anymore. So, you cannot see the stolen bandwidth tag either.
Here is what Wikipedia's description is of "bandwidth theif"

Inline linking (also known as hotlinking, leeching, piggy-backing, direct linking, offsite image grabs and bandwidth theft) is the use of a linked object, often an image, from one site into a web page belonging to a second site. The second site is said to have an inline link to the site where the object is located.
and

Some servers are programmed to use the HTTP referer to detect hot-linking and return a condemnatory message, commonly in the same format, in place of the expected image or media clip.
A common way of dealing with bandwidth theft, is "the old switcheroo", whereby the person paying for the bandwidth, but is the victim of bandwidth theft, will, instead of telling that person to stop, they will simply EDIT the image, making it an image that can be offensive, or embarrassing. It seems the owner of the image on Charlie Thomas' website went for the embarrassing option. Lucky Mr. Thomas. However, it revealed Mr. Charlie Thomas and Mrs. Cindy Thomas to be bandwidth theives.

Hmmm.. No wonder they changed their website.

The L.A. Fair Santa called a father a liar because the father asked for prayer for his daughter.

While looking at SantaTalk again, we noticed that some posts are starting to be deleted.
One here, one there. Not many, just a couple. It seems that when we post and let the rest of the world know just how terrible these PUBLICLY VIEWABLE posts from "santas" are, they take THAT post down.

Case in point, the post wherein Frank Richard Erwin, AKA Ric Erwin, a supposed "santa claus" in Laguna Niguel, and who sat with the Los Angelas children this past September at the L.A. Fair, posted a post with the subject line of "GOD DAMN YOUR IMMORTAL SOUL, NICK TROLLI!!!".

In this post, Ric Erwin states that he calls the Apartment Complex Manager of Mr. Nick Trolli, because Nick Trolli had posted a prayer request for his daughter who was involved in a swimming accident that endangered her health.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SantaTalk/message/5795

Ric Erwin posted that message number after Nick requested prayer for his daughter, on Nick's own organizational message board. Nick Trolli did NOT post it on SantaTalk.

The "santas" on SantaTalk felt the need to post it on their message board, and then use the information to attack Nicholas, at his home, via his landlord.

We have repeatedly mentioned this in our postings. As of this morning, that post is now gone.

SantaCheck.com has accomplished another victory. However SantaTalk, SantaTalkATT still exists. Until they are completely ashamed of their PUBLICLY VIEWABLE FOUL MOUTH, we will not stop.

Part of his original message is as follows;

She wasn't exactly hostile at first, but she was QUITE stern-- even from the opening greeting-- and she demanded to know exactly who I was, and that I reveal the source of my interest in the matter before she would even confirm or deny its occurrence. I identified myself exactly as I'd done earlier, except that this time I specified FORBS as the group I was calling on behalf of; I told her that the resident whose report we were trying to verify was Nicholas Trolli, and that we simply wanted some kind of third-party confirmation before we loosed the flood of sympathy and support which such an incident would surely trigger amongst our noble brethren.

As I spoke this, I sensed the relief flooding through Robin, and once she started to talk, I felt that tingling sensation in the back of MY neck, as well!!!

First of all, she said, the pool was closed yesterday. Secondly, there HAD been a minor incident on Sunday involving teens horseplaying, but that the only person at risk at any point was that teen boy mentioned in Jerksniff's post-- and that the closest Nick's daughter ever came at any point to being in danger was when the teen grabbed her bathing suit, and she briefly went under water. Although she DID cry after she got out of the pool, she made her own way to the poolside, AND SHE WAS NEVER OUT OF SIGHT OF THE LIFEGUARD!
Wait a minute, let's see if we can sort this out and then piece it back together as a truthful statement. We do not see that it can happen.

First;
"She said the pool was closed. "
Second;
"There HAD been a minor incident on Sunday" ... (At a CLOSED POOL???)
Third;
"The closest Nick's daughter ever came at any point to being in danger was when the teen grabbed her bathing suit and she went under water". .... (sounds like someone else in danger besides just the teens that were horseplaying)
Fourth:
SHE WAS NEVER OUT SIGHT OF THE LIFEGUARD????? ( A lifeguard at a closed pool???)

Swimmng and playing in a "CLOSED POOL". A girl who was "NEVER in any danger", yet, she was pulled "under water" by some teenagers. ?????????

Ric Erwin is calling Nick Trolli a liar because he asked for prayer for his daughter, and he can't write publicly viewable sentences that agree with each other in the same paragraph.
Frank Richard Erwin, AKA Ric Erwin, a "santa claus" in Laguna Niguel, CA and the "Santa" at the September 2008 L.A. Fair, called a father concerned for his daughter, a liar.

"Santa" called a father a liar, because the father asked for prayer for his daughter.
The L.A. Fair Santa called a father a liar because the father asked for prayer for his daughter.

Just because we are tired of posting filth on here, and it is nice to have something good to publish, we are going to publish the prayer request from Nick. You can see what has ENRAGED "Santa" so much. We are posting this with his permission;

Tonight I am sitting vigil on my 10 year old daughter praying that she will be ok. Today after taking her to participate in a Flag Ceremony with her scout troop, the VFW and the ELKS we returned home and my wife took them to our complexes pool as she has done the past two weeks and usually does in the summer months. Today like I usually do I stayed home and worked on Santa and AORBS stuff in the quiet of the apartment.

After tiring of my activities on the phone concerning AORBS and the discussion ensuing on ELF NET I decided to go to the pool and relax a bit. This was not to be the case for me however. Upon my arrival at the pool I could sense uneasiness in the air, as I scanned the pool I found my wife with my daughter at the side of the pool. Cecelia was gasping for air.

As I am assisting Cecelia my wife tells me of 3 teenagers that were goofing off at the pool and that they threw a 17 year old friend in the 9 ft section of the pool. This fellow couldn't swim and was flailing in the water. Both my children have had classes at the YMCA and are good swimmers. They are now working on becoming better at swimming under water; this is why Cecelia was in the deep end. When this guy was thrown into the pool he was fighting for his life. A drowning person will grab anything to try and stay afloat. It is not uncommon for a rescue swimmer to be drowned with the initial victim.

Cecelia was what this kid was grabbing and she was being held under him where no one could see her. The life guard thought this teenager was goofing off as has been their habit and she didn't see my daughter. Finally the life guard jumped in and saved the teenager as he was going down for the third time. Cecelia managed to break away but was in trouble as she was week and had aspirated water. My wife got her to the side of the pool and out of the water.

A trip to the ER and now a night of observation, this father sits here realizing how close my baby, my angel came to singing in the choir in heaven. I'm not afraid to tell you that the thought of losing my child terrifies me. There is no way after an incident like this you cannot realize how precious life is.

Please pray with my family that Cecelia is ok and that all the bad that can happen when you aspirate water in your lung doesn't happen.
You make the judge on which Santa you would want to visit YOUR children.

Tuesday, October 14, 2008

"Santa" can be VERY mean!

The following is a publicly viewable post by Frank Richard Erwin, AKA Ric Erwin a "santa claus" in Laguna Niguel CA. The "santa" who was at the L.A. Fair this past September

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SantaTalk/message/3602

From ricnvicproductions@... Thu Mar 20 20:50:50 2008
To: SantaTalk@yahoogroups.com
X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.115
X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.4.118.254
From: "Santa Ric Erwin"
Subject: Re: 2008 convention
X-Yahoo-Profile: singinsanta

OK! THAT does it!!!

PUNK TROLLI: (thank goodness I can FINALLY address you directly, and expect a reply!)

YOU HAVE THE EFFRONTERY TO ATTACK SANTA MILT COTTRELL?!?!? Oh, the CHUTZPAH!!!

SANTA MILT COTTRELL WAS A SANTA WHOSE JOCKSTRAP YOU COULDN'T CARRY ON YOUR BEST DAY, IF YOU WALKED TWENTY PACES BEHIND HIM!!!

YOU'D BETTER PRAY THAT GOD HAS MERCY ON YOUR SOUL, NICKY!

Meanwhile, your ass is stuck down here-- WITH US!!!

Just for the record: Since your knowledge of the law is as pathetically limited as your vocabulary and spelling skills-- [just guessing.....most of the way through TENTH GRADE, before you dropped out?]-- I will do you the undeserved favor of reassuring you, that:

My preceding statement IS NOT an assault upon you!!!

I am NOT threatening to come to whereever you are and kick your worthless, no-good, blasphemous, piece of S**T ass up around your throat so that you can wear it like a muffler while you beg Santa Milt's wife and family to forgive you!

NOR am I telling you that if I ever find myself within an arms length of you, I will punch you right in your cheap, lying, rotten, no-bath-takin', four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, under-the-porch-sleepin', dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, d**kless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey s**t-lickin'mouth!

You see, I would never, EVER say or do anything like that!!!

Ask ANYBODY!!!

Oh, and as for your demand that I give you a list of the charges that you are facing-- DON'T YOU WISH?!?!?

No, I'm afraid that if I give you that information, you would just take it to use in YOUR counter-revolutionary attempts to dislodge the evil bastard who has lied his way into YOUR beloved fraternal organization, betrayed it, robbed it blind, bankrupted it, ran its reputation into the ground, libelled and slandered every single one of its elder statesman, lied about its-- oh, what the hell, everybody with an IQ above that of a hemorrhoidal baboon's knows what I mean-- and if you try real hard, perhaps you can find one of them to explain it to YOU...

I can't wait to hear you squeal like a pig, Trolli!!!

Ric Erwin (I'll go back to being a Santa when I'm done with you, you mo-- oh, never mind...)


Wait a minute, this post was from who? From: "Santa Ric Erwin"


Wow! Talk about a Mean "Santa"! Or do we have the wrong idea about this kind of "Santa Talk"? And how would YOU take that if it was written about you? Would you think he wasn't telling you he was going to physically attack you? Or would this be viewed as a threat to you?

I can't wait to hear you squeal like a pig, Trolli!!!

Sounds like a threat to us. a Mean threat, from a Mean "santa".

"Santa" has a foul mouth!

"What a pathetic sack of shit you are"

Mr. Earl Allen Keeney, a "santa claus" in Palm Springs CA
July 12 2008

Hmmmm. must have been during "Christmas in July"?

Read it for yourself;
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SantaTalkATT/message/435

We want to make it very clear

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Friday, October 10, 2008

How do we decide what to post?

We have been asked, basically, how do we decide what we post?

Actually, what we have really been asked by some of the people we have been posting about is, why me? and why don't you go after "that guy"?

When we post items for you to know about, we endeavor to post the individual's own words and his/her own postings by his/her own hand.

If you have something that you would like to report to us, we MUST have proof of the charges. We are providing their own words that THEY write.

We will NOT post accusations that do NOT have proof accompanied with them. We will NOT post the recent comment we received that basically said, "Well You need to go after Mr. XXXX, he lied, he stole". If you do not have written documentation, it is nothing more than whining and hateful lies, and gossip. We have already received a comment from someone who registered a Blogger ID the very same day he sent the comment. There are no other posts by this person, no blogs, no other identification at this time.. other than some name of "Santa4everandever".

We don't publish gossip. We publish documented proof.

UPDATE: 10/11/08: As suspected, but not stated, our helpful "friend" "Santa4everandever" is none other than Ric Erwin a "santa" in Laguna Niguel.

He posted this;

I set up a "blind" web ID last night, and submitted this to SantaCheck.blogspot.com, as if I was an uninvolved Santa who "discovered" this stuff online… and .... I'm gonna wait another day or two, and then follow it up with some "discoveries" about XXXX—and I'll mention that the SantaCheck webmaster's failure to follow up on the Nick Trolli stuff is so disturbing that I'm considering contacting some of the persons whom they have mentioned from "Santa Talk", and asking if they have seen this stuff…
Here Mr. Ric Erwin is trying to look like an "uninvolved Santa" who "discovered" "stuff online"
Mr. Ric Erwin, a Santa Claus from Laguna Niguel CA is guilty of nothing but libel, slander, and gossip. Part of his post to us is this;
I Googled "AORBS" and found this site: www.AORBSantas.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SantaTalk/message/7780

Mr. Ric Erwin, a supposed Santa Claus from Laguna is NOT an "uninvolved Santa" and he did NOT "discover" this "stuff online" by googling AORBS and finding www.AORBSantas.com

Mr. Ric Erwin, a supposed Santa Claus from Laguna Niguel CA is the author of all the pages on AORBSantas.com .. He is HOSTING the site, he wrote the site.

Mr. Ric Erwin is disingenuous as best.

Again, we will NOT post gossip.. we only post proof. If you have proof Mr. Frank Richard Erwin, send it, or post it. We will not post your unproven gossip.

Everything we have posted on Ric Erwin, AKA Frank Richard Erwin, a supposed santa claus in Laguna Niguel CA were screen shots of his own words. It was HIS words that we posted that he objected to. It was HIS words that we posted that he called disgusting. THAT is the only thing we agree with him on. His words were disgusting.

Thursday, October 9, 2008

No Accusations, just exposure.

A warning posted by a Tim Connaghan a "santa claus" in Riverside CA, to his friends on SantaTalk.
This is part of what he says about us here at Santa Check

..."And after the past few days of comments by many of you, they may decide to add more. Please know, they are not making any accusations, and are only using your accual (sic) postings, items from your web sites, or statements from major national publications..."


He is correct, we are not making any accusations. We are only using THEIR actual postings. Their own words are being placed here, so that the world can know what they say. They have said that our postings are horrible. Well THEY wrote 'em!